Entertainment mogul Tyler Perry who has built a multi-billion dollar empire, was in town Sunday in a very different role: taking the pulpit at Lakewood Church and sharing a message of faith.

Pastor Joel Osteen talked to Perry about his amazing journey from homeless to media mogul, who then took the stage to share his message.

“I was running from poverty and failure wasn’t an option. I knew there was something higher for me and I had to go with everything I had,” Perry said, speaking before several thousand members. “I had to risk everything, I had to put everything on the line.”

Perry talked to the packed church about his faith, and why he chose to give hundreds of thousands of dollars to Lakewood after Hurricane Harvey, even while the church was embroiled in controversy.